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Will be an interesting window.

I’d like to think that we have a fairly settled squad and just need the odd tweak here and there to push us up.

I really think we need to be signing Boyle up on a longer contract, from memory he only has one year left?
Punt snake boy and use the funds to help sign key positions. For me;
Back up keeper
Naismith
Defensive midfield
Creative midfield
Striker (maybe 2)

I think a lot of teams will be using youth players more over this season.
 

The Family

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Will be an interesting window.

I’d like to think that we have a fairly settled squad and just need the odd tweak here and there to push us up.

I really think we need to be signing Boyle up on a longer contract, from memory he only has one year left?
Punt snake boy and use the funds to help sign key positions. For me;
Back up keeper
Naismith
Defensive midfield
Creative midfield
Striker (maybe 2)

I think a lot of teams will be using youth players more over this season.

I would personally like to see James, Horgan, Mallan, Flo, Mackie leave so we can bring in better quality and tie Boyle down on a longer contract.
 

Hammi

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I would personally like to see James, Horgan, Mallan, Flo, Mackie leave so we can bring in better quality and tie Boyle down on a longer contract.

I'd 100% see Flo leave.
James I'm not too bothered about, although he won't be getting a game at right back anytime soon?
Mackie still has a chance to prove himself, we haven't seen anywhere near enough of him. Greenmachine (I think?) is a fan, enough of a reason for me to see more.
Horgan and Mallan can play, so in the current climate I don't see why we would move them on.

Definitely try and secure Boyle.
 

The Family

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I'd 100% see Flo leave.
James I'm not too bothered about, although he won't be getting a game at right back anytime soon?
Mackie still has a chance to prove himself, we haven't seen anywhere near enough of him. Greenmachine (I think?) is a fan, enough of a reason for me to see more.
Horgan and Mallan can play, so in the current climate I don't see why we would move them on.

Definitely try and secure Boyle.

Mackie wasn’t great at Dundee in the Championship so I think sadly he won’t make the step up, showed plenty potential previously but recently hasn’t showed that potential or appetite in my opinion. Again in my opinion both Horgan and Mallan haven’t given us anything in return for what was paid for them. For me we deserve better.
 

The Family

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I'd 100% see Flo leave.
James I'm not too bothered about, although he won't be getting a game at right back anytime soon?
Mackie still has a chance to prove himself, we haven't seen anywhere near enough of him. Greenmachine (I think?) is a fan, enough of a reason for me to see more.
Horgan and Mallan can play, so in the current climate I don't see why we would move them on.

Definitely try and secure Boyle.

Rocky

O’Donnell Porto Hanlon

Gogic

Allan Stephane

Aarons Miller

Nisbet Doidge
 

Hammi

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Mackie wasn’t great at Dundee in the Championship so I think sadly he won’t make the step up, showed plenty potential previously but recently hasn’t showed that potential or appetite in my opinion. Again in my opinion both Horgan and Mallan haven’t given us anything in return for what was paid for them. For me we deserve better.

Scott Allan wasn't great at Dundee either but he turned out okay. I'm sure there better examples tbf.
Dundee might not be the best club for players to shine. If you agree he showed potential then you know theres a player there.
Hes a big strong athletic boy who now knows what it feels like to play in a first team. The next couple years are the important ones in his development.

Mallan gave us goals and assists, played out of position or not in his own role until he got injured.
I think he showed more than Hallberg.

Horgan is another one who's been all over the park and in fairness not the most consistent and probably can't finish a game, but there was more than a few games where he was our only creative outlet.

I'm not keen to judge everyone on the last season, considering the first half of it was a shit show, where players like Mallan and Horgan actually kept us winning points we didn't deserve.
 

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Scott Allan wasn't great at Dundee either but he turned out okay. I'm sure there better examples tbf.
Dundee might not be the best club for players to shine. If you agree he showed potential then you know theres a player there.
Hes a big strong athletic boy who now knows what it feels like to play in a first team. The next couple years are the important ones in his development.

Mallan gave us goals and assists, played out of position or not in his own role until he got injured.
I think he showed more than Hallberg.

Horgan is another one who's been all over the park and in fairness not the most consistent and probably can't finish a game, but there was more than a few games where he was our only creative outlet.

I'm not keen to judge everyone on the last season, considering the first half of it was a shit show, where players like Mallan and Horgan actually kept us winning points we didn't deserve.

That’s your opinion, see my team above.
 

Hammi

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How do you get that when Ross wants more pace, both of these players will destroy defenders with their pace and create more chances for our strikers.

What has attacking got to do with defending the wings? Paul Hanlon will get dragged across, O'Donnell likewise and Porteous is a go forward and attack the ball type of defender, he needs a covering player to partner him.

We're currently not paying our players full wages, we'll need to make up that money later, we aren't going to add 6 first team players on top either I think.
 

The Family

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What has attacking got to do with defending the wings? Paul Hanlon will get dragged across, O'Donnell likewise and Porteous is a go forward and attack the ball type of defender, he needs a covering player to partner him.

We're currently not paying our players full wages, we'll need to make up that money later, we aren't going to add 6 first team players on top either I think.

Those players I added if the players I mentioned left, I will now be swapping Stewart for Nisbet as seemingly Portsmouth are interested in Nisbet who will blow both us and United out of the water, although it depends on Nisbet wants to go there I suppose. Again above is your opinion but for me that team would offer us so much more to what we have now.
 

Hammi

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Those players I added if the players I mentioned left, I will now be swapping Stewart for Nisbet as seemingly Portsmouth are interested in Nisbet who will blow both us and United out of the water, although it depends on Nisbet wants to go there I suppose. Again above is your opinion but for me that team would offer us so much more to what we have now.

Obviously it would offer us something different to what we have now? It's a completely different team.

You have to balance your team though. Gogic protects the centre 2, you have a centre 3, that usually reduces the need for a holding midfielder.
Your wingers are just that, attacking wingers that won't offer the right protection in our third.

3 defenders, 3 midfielders and 4 attackers.

At least you agree to playing Scott Allan deeper now though.
 

The Family

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Obviously it would offer us something different to what we have now? It's a completely different team.

You have to balance your team though. Gogic protects the centre 2, you have a centre 3, that usually reduces the need for a holding midfielder.
Your wingers are just that, attacking wingers that won't offer the right protection in our third.

3 defenders, 3 midfielders and 4 attackers.

At least you agree to playing Scott Allan deeper now though.

O’Donnell is a much better defender than what we have currently, Porto is captain material, Hanlon will be fine.

Gogic will give us that much needed steel and as you say protect the centre 2, although he will also break up the play so our flair midfielders can get on the ball and create things for us.

Both Aaron’s and Miller have pace in abundance but both can chase their marker back, so many times recently we have had players who are good at attacking but not good at tracking their marker back like Naismith for an example.
 

Smurf

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The absolute priority this window IMO should be Docherty. The laddie looks the real deal. And seems off the park is the real deal too. A proper Hibernian captain in the making.

This team and squad though absolutely needs reconstruction (though maybe not as much as the RELEGATED Gunts!!). Last season we were not nearly good enough. To lose twice at home v Levein's Gunts and Stendel's Gunts was a sad indictment.

Defence needs sorted. And we need greater attacking finishing.
 

The Family

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The absolute priority this window IMO should be Docherty. The laddie looks the real deal. And seems off the park is the real deal too. A proper Hibernian captain in the making.

This team and squad though absolutely needs reconstruction (though maybe not as much as the RELEGATED Gunts!!). Last season we were not nearly good enough. To lose twice at home v Levein's Gunts and Stendel's Gunts was a sad indictment.

Defence needs sorted. And we need greater attacking finishing.

Seemingly Gerrard is trying to get Docherty back down to England.
 

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I thought Jackson was coming on to a game, although he had one particular stinker. No mention of Newell either, who also was starting to look like a player befoe getting hurt? I agree on Docherty although the Gogic boy looks interesting after a few on here pointed him out. We are light on keepers although I would not be surprised if Bogdan comes back?
 

Hammi

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O’Donnell is a much better defender than what we have currently, Porto is captain material, Hanlon will be fine.

Gogic will give us that much needed steel and as you say protect the centre 2, although he will also break up the play so our flair midfielders can get on the ball and create things for us.

Both Aaron’s and Miller have pace in abundance but both can chase their marker back, so many times recently we have had players who are good at attacking but not good at tracking their marker back like Naismith for an example.

How much have you seen those other players? Any idea how much energy it takes to play a proper winger and cover against an opponents wide defenders and midfielders?
Any team that plays a wide style will expose the life out of that team.

What I would do. All day against that team, is cross field counters. Completely bypass our midfield and force our defenders to spread wide to attack that ball.
Think about it.

Weve just attacked down left hand side.. 2 forwards are in the 18 yard box, right winger is at his edge of the box, our left winger has just crossed the ball so hes at his corner flag.
Scott allan in central edge of the box. Omeonga is deeper, central left in case our winger played short.
Gogic is centre circle.
Porteous Hanlon and Odonnel are just outside our third.

That's how an attack from us will look. Laid out everyone on the park.
To defend that, you have 4 defenders, 2 midfielders.

Attack fails, their wingers are already wide, the ball moves MUCH quicker than any human can, so boom, cross field to their left midfielder who's already motoring down the wing to chase.
Counters on, now we're 4 v 6, can't stay tight, have to attack the ball. Porteous is on his own with players everywhere.

It doesn't matter how much we attack if we're exposed at every counter.
Then we stop committing players because we can be spread short.

All those players can be useful at the club, but just picking 11 good players doesn't make a team.
 

The Family

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The absolute priority this window IMO should be Docherty. The laddie looks the real deal. And seems off the park is the real deal too. A proper Hibernian captain in the making.

This team and squad though absolutely needs reconstruction (though maybe not as much as the RELEGATED Gunts!!). Last season we were not nearly good enough. To lose twice at home v Levein's Gunts and Stendel's Gunts was a sad indictment.

Defence needs sorted. And we need greater attacking finishing.

The Gunts signed enough players to make up two teams of pish, like you the defence does need strengthening and O’Donnell is available in the summer as is Miller, Gogic so the only fee’s would be for Nisbet, Stephane and Aaron’s would be a loan.
 
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