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SlovSam

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There is another site that extends on his career just a little bit though not likely to be of much help.

I have no idea who maintains these sites and their sources but suspect they all just copy from one another.

My guess is that some very decent Polish player played in an unrecognised bounce game at Easter Road as my old teacher thought and him and his mates did indeed go to watch.✅

Whether it was a reasonably well known Polish Internationalist who had went to the 1938 World Cup is a whole different matter as you would have thought that would be very well documented though it doesn't explain why his name crops up on various sites.🤔🤔

Another theory would be that the story grew arms and legs as the Polish internationalist didn't actually play FOR Hibs but AGAINST Hibs as there is many documented and undocumented games between Hibs and Army select teams all throughout the war and well into the 1950's.

Sad that this generation has mostly passed as it would have been a mystery all so easily solved over a conversation.😥
 
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emerald green

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I can relate to it, my Uncle was Ukranian, and fought for the Axis, he despised the Russians.

thread hijack

As was my grandad... after escaping the russians (who were carting him off to fight for the motherland), he was captured by jerry (who carted him off to the Fatherland :gigglle:) where he was used for slave labour till the yanks finally got off their fat arse and liberated him... where he joined the thousands of ukrainians in the north of italy (who couldnt go home as Papa Joe had a bullet ready for everyone of them).. The vast majority of them managed to get to Canada or south america, but he couldnae get on them boats, and ended up in a POW camp.... in Dalkeith :gigglle::sm003:

(by the way, there is very big potential that your Unc was a radge during the war M... have you researched Ukrainians who fought with Uncle Adolph?...ooft)
 

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There is no record of him being registered to any team in Scotland during the war as a signed player or with consent as a guest from his parent club.
To be fair if his parent club was behind enemy lines getting consent might be an issue! 🤔
 

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As was my grandad... after escaping the russians (who were carting him off to fight for the motherland), he was captured by jerry (who carted him off to the Fatherland :gigglle:) where he was used for slave labour till the yanks finally got off their fat arse and liberated him... where he joined the thousands of ukrainians in the north of italy (who couldnt go home as Papa Joe had a bullet ready for everyone of them).. The vast majority of them managed to get to Canada or south america, but he couldnae get on them boats, and ended up in a POW camp.... in Dalkeith :gigglle::sm003:

(by the way, there is very big potential that your Unc was a radge during the war M... have you researched Ukrainians who fought with Uncle Adolph?...ooft)

Your grandads story is very much like my great uncles, although he went from Northern Italy to Tranent! The quietest, hard working, religious man you could ever meet. He was no Nazi but hated the Russians as he came from near Lviv in Catholic Western Ukrania.
 

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Your grandads story is very much like my great uncles, although he went from Northern Italy to Tranent! The quietest, hard working, religious man you could ever meet. He was no Nazi but hated the Russians as he came from near Lviv in Catholic Western Ukrania.

My grandad was from that region of Ukraine as well, ended up in Mayfield! Similar story or being caught up with both sides, don’t think he cared for either, but think he was in France until the war ended.
 

emerald green

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Ive read a lot on it. As a Kresy Polak its not comfortable reading.
Aye, no the best... i only researched by accident.... my relative was a farmer all his life ands was a slave in germany, family still got his stamped id card from them... but my family had a pic of him in a uniform.. so i researched the ensignia, no unlike our lion rampant... which led me doen the rabbit hole of ukrainians who fought with the nazis. Didnae like it and then had tae dig deeper as to why there was a photo of this uniform.
Turn out my relative borrowed the uniform so he could get false id that he was in the army and therefore could get to rimini with the vast majority of displaced ukrainians... kinda radge that 1875 and Zab have relatives who made the same journey; all survived Stalin, then Hitler, then ended up in dalkeith n tranent :gigglle:... and generational hibbies were born. We are a broad church us Hibernians
 

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I can relate to it, my Uncle was Ukranian, and fought for the Axis, he despised the Russians.

The Axis was anti Allied forces, pro Nazi collaborators . The Nazi Ukranian and Croatian collaborators got their due deserts. In many cases they were worse than the Nazis if you can possibly imagine that. Bastards.

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The Axis was anti Allied forces, pro Nazi collaborators . The Nazi Ukranian and Croatian collaborators got their due deserts. In many cases they were worse than the Nazis if you can possibly imagine that. Bastards.

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I agree. Of course many more were terrified young men with no political agendas.
 

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The Axis was anti Allied forces, pro Nazi collaborators . The Nazi Ukranian and Croatian collaborators got their due deserts. In many cases they were worse than the Nazis if you can possibly imagine that. Bastards.

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Tae be fair a lot of ordinary east Europeans ( Ukranians ,Romanians etc.) had a stark choice, madman Hitler or madman Stalin. Who would you have chosen. It's also true that some of them became worse than their masters which a lot of them had to do to keep their families alive. Some of of course were just horrible human beings and Naziism or Communism didnt matter to them as long long as they could practice their trade.
 

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I agree. Of course many more were terrified young men with no political agendas.
Not forgetting of course that Hitler and Stalin were Allies for 1/3 of the War.
Tae be fair a lot of ordinary east Europeans ( Ukranians ,Romanians etc.) had a stark choice, madman Hitler or madman Stalin. Who would you have chosen. It's also true that some of them became worse than their masters which a lot of them had to do to keep their families alive. Some of of course were just horrible human beings and Naziism or Communism didnt matter to them as long long as they could practice their trade.
Only one country choose neither. Can't blame some Ukrainans for siding with Hilter, after what Stalin did in the 30's.
 

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