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AG1337

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Gullan for Doidge and Wright for Boyle would have been my changes. He is accountable for his own mistakes which is costing us at the moment. That’s a problem for us too not having the quality in depth for competition for our starting 11
Not massive changes but...

Gullan would have been bullied by that Dons defence and Wright has so far been unconvincing, to say the least.

Players are costing us, not JR

Personally, I will have a more informed opinion regarding the manager May 2021.
 

westsidehibs

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The last 3 seasons or so we have been dependent on good signings in jan to improve our season .
I hoping this won't be the case again this season .
 

AG1337

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We weren’t lucky to get McGinn, that was good scouting and opportunity.

we are not Liverpool and Man City. It equally it’s no luck about the manager they targeted.

I don’t think we are bigger and better than anyone else far from it but I don’t think it’s unrealistic to have higher ambitions and to get the best we can. I think we often miss the best we can be.
Your last sentence sums up the reality of being a Hibs fan, no, most football fans, unless you support teams like Liverpool and Man C.

I think appointing JR was an ambitious signing for the reasons I offered earlier.

Who would you have manage Hibs now?
 

NW

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Your last sentence sums up the reality of being a Hibs fan, no, most football fans, unless you support teams like Liverpool and Man C.

I think appointing JR was an ambitious signing for the reasons I offered earlier.

Who would you have manage Hibs now?
Fair comments AG

to be honest I don’t know, I prefer a bit more fire in the belly and a visible determination to win at all costs. I think we are better served by people who have tasted decent success and also lost finals as it gives them the desire to repeat.
 

Hammi

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My comment is about the mistakes Ross is doing. The depth is another issue which I mentioned. I would try Nesbit with Gullan one up front doesn’t work for us which was trial and tested previously.

We're too predictable from middle to front playing in this system.
Gullans eagerness alone won't make up for those failings. We need to switch it up.

Midfield 3 with 2 wingers and a forward

I'd like to see how we would look with..

Gogic behind Magennis and Newell
Boyle and Murphy out wide and Nisbet up top.

I like Mallan but I think we need to see if Magennis is a box to box battling type. That'll mesh better and make Mallan and Newell compete for a spot. Also makes a sub that has a naturally different style despite sharing a role.

It also means we have 3 players competing for 1 spot up top instead of 2, need to build some competition for those spots
 

westsidehibs

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I think the club needs to just go up a notch regarding transfers , wages etc.
Aberdeen don't pay vast amounts more than us but they have a better squad .
There's a reason why they are so consistent season after season and its because they have better players simple as that.
We can't keep changing managers all the time .
 

Smurf

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I think the club needs to just go up a notch regarding transfers , wages etc.
Aberdeen don't pay vast amounts more than us but they have a better squad .
There's a reason why they are so consistent season after season and its because they have better players simple as that.
We can't keep changing managers all the time .

That was the plan before Covid-19! I now can't see there being much of a budget for January....
 

eckmf

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That's about a 200 mile round trip....... presumably he has accommodation up here somewhere that he bunks in. I can't see him doing that amount of travel 4 or 5 times a week?
In the early 80s I was stationed at albamarle barracks just outside Newcastle, I had bought a house in ormiston and I travelled up and down almost every day and thought nothing about it.
 

AG1337

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We're too predictable from middle to front playing in this system.
Gullans eagerness alone won't make up for those failings. We need to switch it up.

Midfield 3 with 2 wingers and a forward

I'd like to see how we would look with..

Gogic behind Magennis and Newell
Boyle and Murphy out wide and Nisbet up top.

I like Mallan but I think we need to see if Magennis is a box to box battling type. That'll mesh better and make Mallan and Newell compete for a spot. Also makes a sub that has a naturally different style despite sharing a role.

It also means we have 3 players competing for 1 spot up top instead of 2, need to build some competition for those spots
That is an interesting suggestion.
Gogic and Newell are sound, they just need back up.

Hoping Magennis gets up to speed quick and Boyle gets his mojo back.

To be fair to @The Family, I also think Murphy is a good signing and can improve us.

However frustrating the last couple of weeks have been, we are not a bad side, we just need a few tweaks and additions.
 

Greenmachine

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I think the club needs to just go up a notch regarding transfers , wages etc.
Aberdeen don't pay vast amounts more than us but they have a better squad .
There's a reason why they are so consistent season after season and its because they have better players simple as that.
We can't keep changing managers all the time .
Aberdeen are a squad 7 years in the making. That's how long McIness has been there and how long it has taken him to build a solid, competitive squad. That's why Ross needs time to do the same. Aberdeen finished second for four seasons on the trot and have played regular European football...that has to be our aim. Our ambition has to be to replace them as the Old Firm's main challengers. I am sure Ross, Gordon and Dempster share that ambition. It won't happen overnight or in one season (Ross has only been in charge for a year), but if we all pull in the same direction and get behind the manager and the club we can get there a lot quicker. Remember we spent three financially crippling seasons in the Championship whilst they were achieving second spot finishes and all the extra income that brings.

I actually don't think there is much between Aberdeen and Hibs as teams, but they have a significantly stronger squad which has been put together, nurtured and developed over the last 5 or 6 years by an excellent manager who has been backed to the hilt by his board. That's the difference and that is why they will more than likely finish in third spot this season probably quite comfortably above Hibs.

This year is a nightmare due to Covid-19 and no regular income, and to be honest just completing the season will be an achievement never mind anything else.

Incremental improvement in the team's performance and finishing league position is what I am looking for. I hope Jack Ross is here for the long haul and given a chance to build the squad and the team we all want to see.
 
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Davy

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Poor all round, I thought Doig wasn't too bad tho. Thought McGinn had a mare.

We cannot handle physical teams. We are too weak physically and mentally. When you are struggling you need your big players, your big personalities - to step up. They didn't. We need to halt this slide, and fast.

Does make you wonder where we can get the heart of the likes of Rob Jones, Gordon Hunter, Rae, McNamara, Mixu O'Connor...not the most expensive of Hibs players...nor always the most talented, but would bust a gut to get through to the goals or take down a man. I'm sure you could think of more.
 

The Family

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Not massive changes but...

Gullan would have been bullied by that Dons defence and Wright has so far been unconvincing, to say the least.

Players are costing us, not JR

Personally, I will have a more informed opinion regarding the manager May 2021.

The writing was on the wall from the Sunderland fans, Ross has a terrible record in big games, they also said he was very stubborn and sticks with players he likes and won’t change and is clueless on how to change it.

ring any bells?
 

The Family

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We're too predictable from middle to front playing in this system.
Gullans eagerness alone won't make up for those failings. We need to switch it up.

Midfield 3 with 2 wingers and a forward

I'd like to see how we would look with..

Gogic behind Magennis and Newell
Boyle and Murphy out wide and Nisbet up top.

I like Mallan but I think we need to see if Magennis is a box to box battling type. That'll mesh better and make Mallan and Newell compete for a spot. Also makes a sub that has a naturally different style despite sharing a role.

It also means we have 3 players competing for 1 spot up top instead of 2, need to build some competition for those spots

One up front leaves the striker too isolated, we were screaming for two to be played up front but at the moment Doidge isn’t giving us anything so the only one we have to replace him with is Gullan, we were a striker short and not bringing in another one left us with relying on Gullan too much.

The midfield is weak which has been clearly evident in games, Gogic needs someone else in there to give us more strength in there, Mallan, Newell or Hallberg isn’t that person. Magennis could be that player but at the moment we will never know as Ross played him out of position. Boyle needs dropped he has had plenty of chances playing on the wing or through the middle, I would give Wright a chance he has shown in previous matches he could bring something to us but it wasn’t consistent.

As I mentioned we don’t have the depth in quality which needs addressed in January.
 

AG1337

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The writing was on the wall from the Sunderland fans, Ross has a terrible record in big games, they also said he was very stubborn and sticks with players he likes and won’t change and is clueless on how to change it.

ring any bells?
Eh? What you talking about, Sunderland were a basket case when he was there, totally different scenario.

I am not suggesting JR is the messiah but FFS, give him time.

Your suggestion of Gullan and Wright for last night makes me think you are clueless.
 

The Family

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Aberdeen are a squad 7 years in the making. That's how long McIness has been there and how long it has taken him to build a solid, competitive squad. That's why Ross needs time to do the same. Aberdeen finished second for four seasons on the trot and have played regular European football...that has to be our aim. Our ambition has to be to replace them as the Old Firm's main challengers. I am sure Ross, Gordon and Dempster share that ambition. It won't happen overnight or in one season (Ross has only been in charge for a year), but if we all pull in the same direction and get behind the manager and the club we can get there a lot quicker. Remember we spent three financially crippling seasons in the Championship whilst they were achieving second spot finishes and all the extra income that brings.

I actually don't think there is much between Aberdeen and Hibs as teams, but they have a significantly stronger squad which has been put together, nurtured and developed over he last 5 or 6 years by an excellent manager who has been backed to the hilt by his board. That's the difference and that is why they will more than likely finish in third spot this season probably quite comfortably above Hibs.

This year is a nightmare due to Covid-19 and no regular income, and to be honest just completing the season will be an achievement never mind anything else.

Incremental improvement in the team's performance and finishing league position is what I am looking for. I hope Jack Ross is here for the long haul and given a chance to build the squad and the team we all want to see.

I get what you are saying GM, McInness has been their for 7 years etc. Looking at both of our games we have been miles behind them in strength, not being able to break them down so to say there isn’t much between us is not true.

The fact we haven’t beaten them in 8 years up there once again proves we are not at the same level as them. Our manager is continuing to make the same errors as he did at Sunderland and it never improved, for me that is a concern as if he continues to do so he won’t match Ron’s expectations on being the third force in Scotland.

If you are also honest we got very lucky in a lot of games but we also played well in others like Livi away, Huns at home, Killie away etc. He needs to brave and make the right decisions in dropping players who aren’t performing and for me and what I seen from the Sunderland fans he is too stubborn to do them.
 

stickyRicky

Muirhouse Radge
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I think the club needs to just go up a notch regarding transfers , wages etc.
Aberdeen don't pay vast amounts more than us but they have a better squad .
There's a reason why they are so consistent season after season and its because they have better players simple as that.
We can't keep changing managers all the time .

They have been building this squad for about 5 years. We can't realistically do it in two transfer windows.
 

The Family

Capital Radge
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Eh? What you talking about, Sunderland were a basket case when he was there, totally different scenario.

I am not suggesting JR is the messiah but FFS, give him time.

Your suggestion of Gullan and Wright for last night makes me think you are clueless.

Clueless? They were the only players that we have that would be available in those positions by removing Boyle and Doidge or what am I missing.

You mentioned that JR wasn’t costing us and I pointed out the same issues we are having now were the same issues at Sunderland.
 

Sir Shrink

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In the early 80s I was stationed at albamarle barracks just outside Newcastle, I had bought a house in ormiston and I travelled up and down almost every day and thought nothing about it.
Aye, but you were driving a tank and just fucked up any motors holding you back.
Jack will be in the company Yaris.
 

AG1337

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Clueless? They were the only players that we have that would be available in those positions by removing Boyle and Doidge or what am I missing.

You mentioned that JR wasn’t costing us and I pointed out the same issues we are having now were the same issues at Sunderland.
Oh come on Family!

The same manager who has steered us to a very good start this season which is easily forgotten in two games?

JR isn’t costing us, it is players out of form.

We don’t have a big enough squad to just swap when players lose form, not quality for quality anyway.

Dont believe everything you watch or read, I liked Sunderland til I die but it didn’t form my opinion of JR.

What are you suggesting? Sack him?
 

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