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emerald green

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For most guys down here that I know it was a mistrust/ dislike of Corbyn. The racist card always gets thrown about because the far left wont accept it was down to Corbyn mostly so they've got to find another reason
So all these voters in England who had a "mistrust/dislike" of corbyn.... their only recourse was to vote Tory??? Is that what your saying?

Far left? Wot you talking about willis?
 

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So all these voters in England who had a "mistrust/dislike" of corbyn.... their only recourse was to vote Tory??? Is that what your saying?

Far left? Wot you talking about willis?
I didnae say anywhere they voted Tory, I said they wouldn't vote for Corbyn. And dont be so pedantic, you know exactly what I'm talking about when I say far left.
 

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I didnae say anywhere they voted Tory, I said they wouldn't vote for Corbyn. And dont be so pedantic, you know exactly what I'm talking about when I say far left.
You didn't, but since the thread is about Labour, and since my posts and yours directly afterwards was on Smurfs post with the table that showed those who voted previously but didnt in the last election, was overwhelmingly due to Corbyn, rather than Europe, I assumed that when you posted : " For most guys down here that I know... ", that these guys you posted about were previously labour people who didnt vote for labour, because of Corbyn! Otherwise, why would you have posted that?... and lets face it, it would appear, going by the utter humiliation that Labour suffered in the last election, was in the main (in those traditional hard labour areas of england) Labour voters who voted Tory!!

Also, am no being "pedantic" about what you say is far left. Id hardly call the Labour party far left ffs!, but thats no' tae say that in your opinion they are!
 

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You didn't, but since the thread is about Labour, and since my posts and yours directly afterwards was on Smurfs post with the table that showed those who voted previously but didnt in the last election, was overwhelmingly due to Corbyn, rather than Europe, I assumed that when you posted : " For most guys down here that I know... ", that these guys you posted about were previously labour people who didnt vote for labour, because of Corbyn! Otherwise, why would you have posted that?... and lets face it, it would appear, going by the utter humiliation that Labour suffered in the last election, was in the main (in those traditional hard labour areas of england) Labour voters who voted Tory!!

Also, am no being "pedantic" about what you say is far left. Id hardly call the Labour party far left ffs!, but thats no' tae say that in your opinion they are!
They're certainly not far left now, hopefully far more electable than they were. I dont know how all my mates would normally vote but probably a good mixture ,the talks in pubs etc with them was mostly how they wouldnt vote for Corbyn , immigration was talked about but the majority were more concerned about Corbyn as PM. My post wasnt so much about who voted for whom but more the suggestion if you didnt vote for Corbyn you must be a racist
 

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Power grab under way from the Tories in Scotland with there internal market nonsense, and no surprise silence from Labour and all media.
 
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What exactly is 'his direction' in education? You have put your finger right on it there. Any decenting voice will not be tolerated.

G ROSENBERG of the Jewish Socialists' Group puts it succinctly on Facebook........
avery flimsy pretext to sack Rebecca Long Bailey.

Starmer’s clash with Long-Bailey in recent days and weeks has not been over policing or Israel but over strategies for school return. On this, Long-Bailey has rightly and stubbornly stayed very close to the NEU which has prioiritised the safety of schoolworkers, pupils and their families over the drive to force people back to work in unsafe environments using unsafe public transport, to kick-start the economy again whatever the price paid by those with the least choices.

Starmer has faithfully followed the lines put out by Tony Blair’s Global Institute, which is very close to Boris Johnson’s view – the economy over everything – and according to Blair/Johnson, getting children back into school so their parents can return to the workplace is key.


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Dear Boris ...this is private and in confidence.
Keir.


With that assurance his Bolshie Shadow Education Minister, Rebecca Long-Bailey, was the only thing standing between him and his promise to the reactionary Johnson. The MSM , Blair, Mandelson were unanimous, all rapturously applauded her sacking.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

G ROSENBERG of the Jewish Socialists' Group nailed it at the time with the above attached words.

Thank goodness there is more than the crappy UK MSM out there to pick stuff like this up and put it into context.


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Just in case some folks missed this U turn by Keir Starmer on Sunday morning it seems the 'Forensic' Sir, has not got such a forensic memory when it comes to The National Question!


Just watched video again.Disingenuous and embarrassing.

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Just in case some folks missed this U turn by Keir Starmer on Sunday morning it seems the 'Forensic' Sir, has not got such a forensic memory when it comes to The National Question!


Just watched video again.Disingenuous and embarrassing.

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Let's hope we can band together to defeat the real danger to this country - Keir Starmer and the Labour Party.

Sorry, I'm being flippant obviously. But how do we - me a shade left of centre, you out in the hinterlands - create a party that can govern and do stuff? Maybe we don't? What's the answer?
 

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Starmer gave a shocking interview to Marr. Still an improvement on Corbyn...

Unfortunately you think that Hitler, Stalin or Genghis Khan would be an improvement on Corbyn. I will keep you posted on the undemoctratic tactics of New New Labour to keep you grounded in what the Tory Billionaire press ignore, with the Sir their new darling, shaping up to what they require, a reliable second 11 for Big Business.
He conned many on the party's Left with his declaration in his Leadership bid to stand on10 pledges. I was not. They have evaporated as his rush to the right with his Blairite front bench urging him on. I may take time to expand on this, just for you, if I can be bothered.

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emerald green

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so a big bag o shite previously and a slightly less big bag o shite now.

great.

but hes better than corbyn so all is swell again
 
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Power grab under way from the Tories in Scotland with there internal market nonsense, and no surprise silence from Labour and all media.
Internal Market Bill passes breaking internation law and breaking the treaty of the Union, goodbye devolution, time for all supposed Scottish partys to wake up as to whats going on.
 

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Assuming everybody has heard the news ... where the f does that leave Labour now?

I've never been a fan of Momentum, admittedly probably don't know all the ins and outs, but it looks like their days are numbered as an faction within Labour now!

 

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