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Peake’s claim was nothing extraordinary, though this horrible tactic has been used by American police long before the days of extensive Homeland security cooperation between Israel and America. The American police discovered, invented and finessed many brutal methods of policing long before looking to Israel for further advice.

How odd, then, to bring up Israel. I wonder why she did.
 

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Do you think what she said was anti-semitic.
She nowhere mentioned Jews. If you do, so be it, these Jews, happen to disagree with you and Starmer.


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I don't, actually. But I think she wasn't far off, given that what she claimed was obviously incorrect and she surely wouldn't have mentioned - indeed didn't mention - any other nation than Israel in this context.

It doesn't matter that she didn't mention Jews. Singling out Israel for this kind of invented criticism puts you in a pretty weird place, almost as though a standard is demanded of the world's only jewish state that isn't required anywhere else. Again, I wonder why.
 

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I do not accept the assersion that Israel is a Jewish State. 74.2% of Israel's population in 2019 were Jewish however 25.8% were not (Muslim,Christian, Druze etc). Are the large minority of Israeli citizens therefore stateless?
Conflating the Israeli State with Jews and therefore critisising any aspect of the apartheid state as anti-semitic is not only disengenuous but being used by Starmer and hopeless Blairite chums to purge people within the Party. The cowardly Sir should either not have made Long Bailey the token Left in his Shadow Cabinet or sacked her because of her position regarding the return of children to school, where there were clear differences. Playing the trumped up anti-semitism card makes the ' forensic' Starmer look rather less so.
Saudi Arabia claims to be 100% Muslim and Iran 99%. Many have correctly criticized the brutal excesses of both those states, including myself. Does that make us according to you and the Sir's logic Islamaphobic?

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A Tale of Two Shadow Cabinet Ministers.
One a Left winger called Rebecca Long-Bailey MP the other Blairite one time vice chair of the uber Blairite Progress organisation in the Labour Party, Steve Reed MP.
As I have said on here Starmers duplicity and cold manipulation will become further apparent.


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I do not accept the assersion that Israel is a Jewish State. 74.2% of Israel's population in 2019 were Jewish however 25.8% were not (Muslim,Christian, Druze etc). Are the large minority of Israeli citizens therefore stateless?
Conflating the Israeli State with Jews and therefore critisising any aspect of the apartheid state as anti-semitic is not only disengenuous but being used by Starmer and hopeless Blairite chums to purge people within the Party. The cowardly Sir should either not have made Long Bailey the token Left in his Shadow Cabinet or sacked her because of her position regarding the return of children to school, where there were clear differences. Playing the trumped up anti-semitism card makes the ' forensic' Starmer look rather less so.
Saudi Arabia claims to be 100% Muslim and Iran 99%. Many have correctly criticized the brutal excesses of both those states, including myself. Does that make us according to you and the Sir's logic Islamaphobic?

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If Iran was the only muslim state and you made up something about it in regard to an unrelated event in a different country in order to make it look bad then, yeah, I'd think you were probably islamophobic.
 

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If Iran was the only muslim state and you made up something about it in regard to an unrelated event in a different country in order to make it look bad then, yeah, I'd think you were probably islamophobic.

Hold on fella your scientific analysis falls down by you ascertaining once again that Israel is a Jewish State. It is a state consisting of Israeli people of differing religions and none.

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Paying out compensation I see

Still wasn't Jezza's fault though.....

Stand up tall and admit that you have not got a clue what you have written there.


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Stand up tall and admit that you have not got a clue what you have written there.


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More denial I see

Its everybody else's fault but his
 

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Hold on fella your scientific analysis falls down by you ascertaining once again that Israel is a Jewish State. It is a state consisting of Israeli people of differing religions and none.

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Leaving aside the breathtaking sophistry at work here in pretending to ignore the fundamental role Jewish identity plays in the socio-political and historical life of Israel, can you name another majority Jewish state?
 

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Leaving aside the breathtaking sophistry at work here in pretending to ignore the fundamental role Jewish identity plays in the socio-political and historical life of Israel, can you name another majority Jewish state?

The only Jewish State in the world now becomes a Majority Jewish State. Oh well at least you admit that 2m of the 9m population exist.

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Let's not forget it was traditional Labour voters dislike of Corbyn that gave Bojo his big majority. 20200811_100015.jpg
 

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For most guys down here that I know it was a mistrust/ dislike of Corbyn. The racist card always gets thrown about because the far left wont accept it was down to Corbyn mostly so they've got to find another reason
 

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