Hibs Casuals, Heroes or Villians

Robert Barone

Well-Known Radge
Lot of teary eyed reminiscing about "the casuals". Let's end one myth though. Scarfers at the time felt no affiliation or pride towards them whatsoever. As for "protecting" us? Give it a rest. If anything it made the trek from Pittodrie etc more of a challenge to reach the station intact! That said the Hibs support in general were no shrinking violets back then either!

Then there was the incident at Paisley. These eejits thought it was a good idea to pour onto the pitch by the fence and try and "get intae the St Mirren kids". Scarfers stopped them getting back into the Hibs section so the polis escorted them behind the goals. They stood for some time near the exit and I for one was expecting them to come over and pile into the Hibs support who had stood up to them.

So spare us the Robin Hood depiction.
Do you speak for all scarfers like..seems a sweeping staement to me? I think its fair to point out there was some bad feeling (especially in the beginning) towards the casuals but most I knew were either indifferent or were happy that the fighting had (mostly but not exclusively) been taken outside of the stadiums. Maybe its a generational thing as I suppose most of the scarfers, never really liked that phrase, I knew at the time were around my own age. I doubt my parents generation would have viewed it in the same way tbf.

Im also not aware of a general feeling that all Hibs boys claimed this Robin Hood status...I certainly never felt that (maybe some did). There was going to be fighting at games in the 80s and 90s regardless of who was doing it (as there was in the 70s)..Im not sure it makes a difference who was participating at a certain time. Seems to me to be disingenuous to be claiming that our fans were mad and would fight anyone in the 70s early 80s and then criticise a different generation for doing more or less the same thing.

Anyway thats the last word from me on it.
 

Ifield Hibee

Just A Radge
I was always quite happy when the casuals beat the crap out of Huns at Ibrox. I took a couple of sore ones there in my younger days. Probably wearing a green tailored suit to stand on the terracing there was a bit rash.
I remember at Anderlecht the casuals were not at all welcomed by many of the ‘scarfers’ who saw them as letting the club down. There was nearly a showdown at one point outside a pub as I recall it.
Yep, I remember that.

Anderlecht was a strange trip.

In the bars and main square there was an uneasy atmosphere. In the Stadium the atmosphere was brilliant.
 

paigntonhibby

Well-Known Radge
Do you speak for all scarfers like..seems a sweeping staement to me? I think its fair to point out there was some bad feeling (especially in the beginning) towards the casuals but most I knew were either indifferent or were happy that the fighting had (mostly but not exclusively) been taken outside of the stadiums. Maybe its a generational thing as I suppose most of the scarfers, never really liked that phrase, I knew at the time were around my own age. I doubt my parents generation would have viewed it in the same way tbf.

Im also not aware of a general feeling that all Hibs boys claimed this Robin Hood status...I certainly never felt that (maybe some did). There was going to be fighting at games in the 80s and 90s regardless of who was doing it (as there was in the 70s)..Im not sure it makes a difference who was participating at a certain time. Seems to me to be disingenuous to be claiming that our fans were mad and would fight anyone in the 70s early 80s and then criticise a different generation for doing more or less the same thing.

Anyway thats the last word from me on it.
I think the main criticism is that Hibs fans have also suffered at their hands ,when we went battling in the 70's or went intae pubs team handed we certainly didnae bother other Hibs fans.
 

paigntonhibby

Well-Known Radge
I think the main criticism is that Hibs fans have also suffered at their hands ,when we went battling in the 70's or went intae pubs team handed we certainly didnae bother other Hibs fans.
Team handed probably sounds a bit hardmanish, in a crowd is probably mair like it
 

Robert Barone

Well-Known Radge
I think the main criticism is that Hibs fans have also suffered at their hands ,when we went battling in the 70's or went intae pubs team handed we certainly didnae bother other Hibs fans.
ive seen many more occasions when bevied Hibs scarfers have been arguing/fighting among themselves, especially at away games, than I have casuals starting on them. Not that I condone either to be clear, or deny that both happened.
 

1875

Admin
If Scarfer means non Casual Hibernian Supporters, that covers the vast majority of Hibernian supporters (98% perhaps ?) as opposed to a small subset of Hibs support.

BIG G

It is and you are of course correct. It was the politer turn of phrase, the term christmas trees was also sometimes used to describe the giant scarf wi a million badges, beany hat on heed, scarfs round the wrist, green three piece suit wi high waister breeks :5:fans back then.
 

Robert Barone

Well-Known Radge
If Scarfer means non Casual Hibernian Supporters, that covers the vast majority of Hibernian supporters (98% perhaps ?) as opposed to a small subset of Hibs support.

BIG G
Agreed, the reason I've never really liked it is it sounded a bit dismissive and drew a separation between the two groups when most of the early casuals I knew were all Hibs fans first and foremost. Probably reading too much into it tbh.
 

shankssaysno

Just A Radge
Hero's for me. Having been a regular going to watch Hibs play at ibrox and being regularly abused with their bile even had a van over take us and the back doors flung open and the orks inside all with red hand gloves on , we once went into the enclosure under the old stand , no scarves on but under our jackets they went one up polite applause then two up again trying to not draw attention to our selves polite applause, Hibs pull one back and all five of us we went fucking tonto , they went mental had to be escorted to another part of the shit hole. So a few years later seeing the hoardes of uneducated part like the red sea , as about 200 CCS marching through them i felt so proud and it showed them up for the bullies they are, i am a lapsed protestant by the way.
 

GORDONSMITH7

Admin
Thread starter
Hero's for me. Having been a regular going to watch Hibs play at ibrox and being regularly abused with their bile even had a van over take us and the back doors flung open and the orks inside all with red hand gloves on , we once went into the enclosure under the old stand , no scarves on but under our jackets they went one up polite applause then two up again trying to not draw attention to our selves polite applause, Hibs pull one back and all five of us we went fucking tonto , they went mental had to be escorted to another part of the shit hole. So a few years later seeing the hoardes of uneducated part like the red sea , as about 200 CCS marching through them i felt so proud and it showed them up for the bullies they are, i am a lapsed protestant by the way.
You should write a mystery book mate, starting.....Once upon a time me and mates went into a Huns end at Ibrox to see Hibs and guess what happened !.....

BIG G
 

EA2007

Last Of The Summer Wine Radge
You should write a mystery book mate, starting.....Once upon a time me and mates went into a Huns end at Ibrox to see Hibs and guess what happened !...

BIG G
If it was up to you, we’d all be queuing for bread and I for one am sick of it.

You’re driving a wedge between Hibernian brothers and it’s deeply upsetting me.
 

shankssaysno

Just A Radge
You should write a mystery book mate, starting.....Once upon a time me and mates went into a Huns end at Ibrox to see Hibs and guess what happened !...

BIG G
it was a time when we did'nt have a allocated area or we were to young and nieve to notice, think i made it up? never missed a Hibs game in a ten year spell including reserve games you got in to the reserves for free if you had a season ticket book.
 

shankssaysno

Just A Radge
If it was up to you, we’d all be queuing for bread and I for one am sick of it.

You’re driving a wedge between Hibernian brothers and it’s deeply upsetting me.
He thinks he is the big i am i don't give a fuck honestly , there was another time at ibrox when in the away area with them above us my said watch this in reference to D murry he started to sing who's the sandbag in the stand they again started to thump their chests we just fell aboot pishing ourselves. But the moral of the story is don't mock the afflicted as the mate who sang it is now in a wheel chair
 
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