Fraser Fyvie

SKII

Aulder Than The Internet This Radge
He was there yesterday with his partner and wee boy. Without saying too much...he is not ruling out Hibs. Says he has taken all the steps he can to make it happen but it is now out of his hands and up to others what now happens...
 

Weehibbydrew

Mussel-bound Radge
He was there yesterday with his partner and wee boy. Without saying too much...he is not ruling out Hibs. Says he has taken all the steps he can to make it happen but it is now out of his hands and up to others what now happens...

Doesn't sound too hopeful. Come on Neil, stop being an arse and bring back a legend.
 

Sir Shrink

Retired Radge
Looks to me like Fraser is bitterly regretting his actions.
However, it's whether Lennon thinks he will be totally committed or just regretting not getting a better deal elsewhere.

Personally I'd like to see Fraser return, but if I was in Lennon's position I may feel differently.

Hopefully it will end up 'win/win'
 

IAmLee

Just A Radge
Looks to me like Fraser is bitterly regretting his actions.
However, it's whether Lennon thinks he will be totally committed or just regretting not getting a better deal elsewhere.

Personally I'd like to see Fraser return, but if I was in Lennon's position I may feel differently.

Hopefully it will end up 'win/win'

I'd hope that Lennon is above cutting off his nose to spite his face, but I'm not sure he is tbh. I've seen a lot of negative posts about Frasers ability on social media and was starting to wonder if I was talking him up out of sheer affection for a cup winning legend rather than ability, but then I found this article:

5 reasons why Fraser Fyvie is a great signing for Dundee United - The Scotsman

For those who can't be bothered reading the whole thing, the main bit that got my attention was:

"Nobody played more passes per 90 minutes than Fyvie in the second tier last season. The results are skewed because he was on the league’s most dominant team, who had seven of their players in the top 12, but Fyvie’s numbers were still impressive. Not only did he better six of his team-mates, including the much-lauded John McGinn, he led second-placed Dylan McGeouch by over five passes per game. They weren’t many wayward ones either, as a 83.76 passing completion percentage (seventh in the league) would testify too. And he wasn’t one of those sideways, take-no-chances midfielders either, ranking third in both the most through balls and passes to the final third per 90 minutes."

I'd like to think that we wouldn't turn down the chance to get a player of that quality back on board unless we had someone better lined up, in which case great. He wouldn't take time to settle and we wouldn't need to pay a fee allowing us to focus more on the attacking players that we need this season. I'm sure we'll find out one way or the other soon....

 

Smurf

Auld Enuff Tae Know Better This Radge
Seen David Gray, Fraser Fyvie with wife and kids on Queensferry Street while driving last night.... I shouted "Fraser get signing for the Hibees!". He laughed out loudly then I said "Are you signing?" to which he said something about "....(unclear)...choice" but couldn't work it out!
 

Hammi

Top radge
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I want us to keep him.
But what's the chances of us offering him the same deal again.
I think we'll reduce it as a lesson for trying to hard ball is
 

Sir Shrink

Retired Radge
I'd hope that Lennon is above cutting off his nose to spite his face, but I'm not sure he is tbh. I've seen a lot of negative posts about Frasers ability on social media and was starting to wonder if I was talking him up out of sheer affection for a cup winning legend rather than ability, but then I found this article:

5 reasons why Fraser Fyvie is a great signing for Dundee United - The Scotsman

For those who can't be bothered reading the whole thing, the main bit that got my attention was:

"Nobody played more passes per 90 minutes than Fyvie in the second tier last season. The results are skewed because he was on the league’s most dominant team, who had seven of their players in the top 12, but Fyvie’s numbers were still impressive. Not only did he better six of his team-mates, including the much-lauded John McGinn, he led second-placed Dylan McGeouch by over five passes per game. They weren’t many wayward ones either, as a 83.76 passing completion percentage (seventh in the league) would testify too. And he wasn’t one of those sideways, take-no-chances midfielders either, ranking third in both the most through balls and passes to the final third per 90 minutes."

I'd like to think that we wouldn't turn down the chance to get a player of that quality back on board unless we had someone better lined up, in which case great. He wouldn't take time to settle and we wouldn't need to pay a fee allowing us to focus more on the attacking players that we need this season. I'm sure we'll find out one way or the other soon....


Good post.

I doubt if we can get someone who would better the stats quoted.

I want us to keep him.
But what's the chances of us offering him the same deal again.
I think we'll reduce it as a lesson for trying to hard ball is

I think that would be the worst option to be honest.

Either re-offer the deal (or even sweeten it slightly to show there's no hard feelings) or leave it be.
 

Hammi

Top radge
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Good post.

I doubt if we can get someone who would better the stats quoted.



I think that would be the worst option to be honest.

Either re-offer the deal (or even sweeten it slightly to show there's no hard feelings) or leave it be.

I think it should be whatever was offered originally, we've obviously changed our mind too so we should stick to it.
 

Hibee Kev

Well-Known Radge
I think it should be whatever was offered originally, we've obviously changed our mind too so we should stick to it.

Agreed. A lesser offer - whilst he might well sign it - would probably just cause some resentment which wouldn't be good for either party. Hope he signs.
 

EastMeetsWest

Well-Known Radge
If this is something that's still on the cards then it should be concluded pronto. Both parties have had more than long enough to weigh the offer up. If FF is stalling then it is not showing much will, respect or commitment to Hibs and vice-versa if it is Hibs delaying, really can't see why the hold up. Obviously we are only fans and supporters so are not privy to the ins and outs of what is happening but can't recall any other player resigning a contract here or elsewhere taking so long to be sorted out. Hope he signs but if not then we've had enough time to get over it and move on.
 

Robert Barone

Well-Known Radge
If we're not having much success getting a replacement I'd be delighted if we re-signed Fyvie. I always thought he was a victim of his own desire to take the ball under pressure..makes him more of a target for the type of fans who love to jump on a players mistakes in a match.

If I'm honest I'd rather keep Fyvie than sign what appears a reluctant Whittaker.


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hibbybilly

radge grandad radge
If we're not having much success getting a replacement I'd be delighted if we re-signed Fyvie. I always thought he was a victim of his own desire to take the ball under pressure..makes him more of a target for the type of fans who love to jump on a players mistakes in a match.

If I'm honest I'd rather keep Fyvie than sign what appears a reluctant Whittaker.


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Whittaker appears tae be doing what Fyvie done, bit two faced of Hibs if they're letting that go on imo
 

Hammi

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Whittaker appears tae be doing what Fyvie done, bit two faced of Hibs if they're letting that go on imo

I think Whittaker is holding out to see if he'll get one last English league payday. It's not quite the same, Fyvie knew what Hibs wanted and chose to wait longer and expected us to be waiting. Hibs wanted folk to extend early so that our budgets were in place early.

Same could still happen here, someone else might come up and we'll tell Steven he's too late.
 

Smurf

Auld Enuff Tae Know Better This Radge
I'm totally mystified by this drama re Whittaker. It's pretty shambolic.
 

Zab

Admin
I wonder if Whittaker's hesitation (if indeed it is his hesitation rather than financial/agent/other variable) is whether he's going to be a first team regular, which will depend on what position we primarily see him playing. I don't think he'll be a first choice full back, so he's either being targeted to add depth over a number of positions or to be a first choice (presumably in midfield).
 

Two Headed Boy

Well-Known Radge
I wonder if Whittaker's hesitation (if indeed it is his hesitation rather than financial/agent/other variable) is whether he's going to be a first team regular, which will depend on what position we primarily see him playing. I don't think he'll be a first choice full back, so he's either being targeted to add depth over a number of positions or to be a first choice (presumably in midfield).
I think this might be the case. The whole Whittaker situation is a conundrum really. I'm excited about a player of his quality signing for Hibs, but full back seems the oddest position to invest in at the club.
 

Hammi

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If we plan on competing in the cups then we'll be playing up to 50 games this season.
There's room for everyone to get plenty game time, especially so when you are as versatile as SW. Be surprised if it is for those reasons, he's getting on a bit, being rotated and used properly will get the best we can out of him.
 
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