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Corona virus on its own thread.

Schools in Scotland to re-open on 11th August.


I actually think when this happens and assuming there is no significant rise in new infections for the 3 weeks thereafter, just about everything else will re-open. Schools was the big thing which had to get back to normal as a priority.
Problem as always is going to be the effect of social distancing on other businesses such as indoor music venues, gyms, nightclubs etc. Too many just won't be viable any more with restricted numbers and will close.
 
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She’s spot on here,embarrassing from the Tory

 

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Caught usin dodgy statistics? Probably the Tory party statistics, they’re a fuckin lie tae.
 
She’s spot on here,embarrassing from the Tory


He’s quit
 
Bye Bye

 
Haha fuckin Tory trumpet that he is.
 

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Who’s your next leader?
 
She’s spot on here,embarrassing from the Tory


This is embarassing. A national disgrace.

From February to June, England was top of the table with a death rate some 7.55 per cent higher than usual, said the Office for National Statistics. It overtook Spain, which had suffered a higher peak earlier in the crisis, and by May 29th had an excess death rate of 6.65. Scotland came third with 5.11, followed by Belgium at 3.89, Wales, at 2.78, Sweden at 2.26, the Netherlands, at 2.21, and Northern Ireland at 2.03, with France at just 0.16.

An Office for National Statistics spokesman confirmed that the four nations and regions of the UK together had a combined rate that was higher than any other country.

The English Government was criticised by the cross Party Public Accounts Committee just yesterday, described as scandalous, as did care home Unions, the National Audit Office confirmation that 25,000 people went untested from hospitals into care homes between mid-March and mid-April.

The Scottish Government did the same. Freeman gave false figures of the numbers in Scotland recently.

These actions unquestionably caused unnecessary deaths of elderly people. Sturgeon and Freeman would not accept the invitation to take part in the BBC Scotland' Disclosure programme...The Care Home Scandal. No wonder.

Both Johnson and Sturgeon have said in the past 24 hrs , regarding this that, best advice was followed at the time. The backslapping on Twitter, above is also embarrassing.

Before the usual political ping pong starts. I have constantly been critical of the pathetically weak response to the Tories handling of all aspects of the outbreak, from Labour's front bench, including Starmer, Ashworth and other timid spokepersons.

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This is embarassing. A national disgrace.

From February to June, England was top of the table with a death rate some 7.55 per cent higher than usual, said the Office for National Statistics. It overtook Spain, which had suffered a higher peak earlier in the crisis, and by May 29th had an excess death rate of 6.65. Scotland came third with 5.11, followed by Belgium at 3.89, Wales, at 2.78, Sweden at 2.26, the Netherlands, at 2.21, and Northern Ireland at 2.03, with France at just 0.16.

An Office for National Statistics spokesman confirmed that the four nations and regions of the UK together had a combined rate that was higher than any other country.

The English Government was criticised by the cross Party Public Accounts Committee just yesterday, described as scandalous, as did care home Unions, the National Audit Office confirmation that 25,000 people went untested from hospitals into care homes between mid-March and mid-April.

The Scottish Government did the same. Freeman gave false figures of the numbers in Scotland recently.

These actions unquestionably caused unnecessary deaths of elderly people. Sturgeon and Freeman would not accept the invitation to take part in the BBC Scotland' Disclosure programme...The Care Home Scandal. No wonder.

Both Johnson and Sturgeon have said in the past 24 hrs , regarding this that, best advice was followed at the time. The backslapping on Twitter, above is also embarrassing.

Before the usual political ping pong starts. I have constantly been critical of the pathetically weak response to the Tories handling of all aspects of the outbreak, from Labour's front bench, including Starmer, Ashworth and other timid spokepersons.

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I’ve said from the start it’s terrible what has happened in care homes and should be an enquiry into who’s to blame.

I don’t think anyone comes out looking good in the 1st few months of this but there’s no denying that since we took a slightly more cautious route that the situation now infection/recent death wise looks a lot better in comparison to elsewhere.
For that I’m willing to give NS,The Gov and all of us that have stuck to the guidance some credit.
 
This is embarassing. A national disgrace.

From February to June, England was top of the table with a death rate some 7.55 per cent higher than usual, said the Office for National Statistics. It overtook Spain, which had suffered a higher peak earlier in the crisis, and by May 29th had an excess death rate of 6.65. Scotland came third with 5.11, followed by Belgium at 3.89, Wales, at 2.78, Sweden at 2.26, the Netherlands, at 2.21, and Northern Ireland at 2.03, with France at just 0.16.

An Office for National Statistics spokesman confirmed that the four nations and regions of the UK together had a combined rate that was higher than any other country.

The English Government was criticised by the cross Party Public Accounts Committee just yesterday, described as scandalous, as did care home Unions, the National Audit Office confirmation that 25,000 people went untested from hospitals into care homes between mid-March and mid-April.

The Scottish Government did the same. Freeman gave false figures of the numbers in Scotland recently.

These actions unquestionably caused unnecessary deaths of elderly people. Sturgeon and Freeman would not accept the invitation to take part in the BBC Scotland' Disclosure programme...The Care Home Scandal. No wonder.

Both Johnson and Sturgeon have said in the past 24 hrs , regarding this that, best advice was followed at the time. The backslapping on Twitter, above is also embarrassing.

Before the usual political ping pong starts. I have constantly been critical of the pathetically weak response to the Tories handling of all aspects of the outbreak, from Labour's front bench, including Starmer, Ashworth and other timid spokepersons.

BIG G
Best advice was followed at the time?
Who could ever have thought the best advice was to send them without testing?
 
Eek

 
The big fear as Devi Sridhar has said is that all the things that have re-opened will have to close again in the winter when the second wave hits. If that happens i'm not sure there will be the same willingness to comply from businesses and people in this country as there was in March/April.
 
The shambles gets worse. Over to you Mr Hancock. This is getting made up on the hoof.

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The shambles gets worse. Over to you Mr Hancock. This is getting made up on the hoof.

BIG G
To be honest I think they've always been making it up as they go along:

Big business says keep the economy going. It keeps going. This was even before the UK had its first cases but everyone else saw what was happening in Italy, Spain and France.

Boris assures big business the UK will remain open for business hides.

Science computer says no, 100s of thousands will die. Reluctantly the torys acknowledge covid exists and introduce herd immunity program.

Boris suggests stiff upper lip and taking on the chin will see off this nasty flu type virus then hides.

Public outrage as 100s start to die.

A flimsy as fuck, not even close to lockdown happens.

The UK starts a game of Where's the Prime Minister. Some old geezer with 2020 vision spots some dodgy Cummings and goings and is subsequently assassinated by the tory press.

In the meantime Torys grease the palms of party contributers when they think no-one is looking.

Torys pressured by big business to open up the economy.

Science computer says no, 10s of thousands more will die.

Lockdown eased way too soon. Schools opened, schools closed (in England) everyone heads for the beach. Local lockdowns all over the place.

England has more daily deaths than the rest of Europe combined.

HM Government hides goes on holiday.
 

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Eastern Europe is an area that hasn't been mentioned much and for a long time was an area where the virus was under control.

Not so much now it seems and is or will be on 14 day travel quarantine.?
 
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Eastern Europe is an area that hasn't been mentioned much and for a long time was an area where the virus was under control.

Not so much now it seems and is or will be on 14 day travel quarantine.?
Has Easyjet not just reinstigated loads of flights to Croatia, Serbia and suchlike? Ooft.
 
That's pubs and restaurants in Aberdeen to close down again from 5.00 tonight for at least a week due to the upsurge in infections there.
 
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Its sadly "amazing" the amount of damage someone just going to the pub can cause and he/she probably didn't have any symptoms.?

There were early cases in South Korean churches which were micro traced back to one super spreader who went to church, had lunch with her friends then went clubbing and infected 500 people.

Same in Australia with "super spreaders" from weddings and staggies knocking out entire small towns.?.

Now that Scotland??????? has effective track,trace and protect we are just catching up with the reality of how contagious this virus really is.

Everything is geared up to the schools reopening next week and other clusters are inevitable.

There was a convincing English??????? professor saying that in our society governments may have to choose between pubs and schools and he might be right?
 
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Tory cronyism and incompetence ....again.

So much used by the Tory press continuously and some on here unfortunately, prior to the last election, used as a blunt, false propaganda tactic the term ' Magic Money Tree' seems to have conveniently evaporated into the ether.

Fifty million face masks bought by the government in April will not be used in the NHS because of safety concerns.

The government says the masks, which use ear-loop fastenings rather than head loops, may not fit tightly enough.

They were bought for healthcare workers from supplier Ayanda Capital as part of a £252m contract.

Ayanda says the masks meet the specifications the government had set out. The government says its safety standards process is "robust".

It also emerged that the person who originally approached the government about the deal was a government trade adviser who also advises the board of Ayanda....


It gets much worse......this is a scandal.


BIG G
 
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Tory cronyism and incompetence ....again.

So much used by the Tory press continuously and some on here unfortunately, prior to the last election, used as a blunt, false propaganda tactic the term ' Magic Money Tree' seems to have conveniently evaporated into the ether.

Fifty million face masks bought by the government in April will not be used in the NHS because of safety concerns.

The government says the masks, which use ear-loop fastenings rather than head loops, may not fit tightly enough.

They were bought for healthcare workers from supplier Ayanda Capital as part of a £252m contract.

Ayanda says the masks meet the specifications the government had set out. The government says its safety standards process is "robust".

It also emerged that the person who originally approached the government about the deal was a government trade adviser who also advises the board of Ayanda....


It gets much worse......this is a scandal.


BIG G
Oh they're way worse than just that! Here's a list compiled by a man after my own heart.

 
Tory cronyism and incompetence ....again.

So much used by the Tory press continuously and some on here unfortunately, prior to the last election, used as a blunt, false propaganda tactic the term ' Magic Money Tree' seems to have conveniently evaporated into the ether.

Fifty million face masks bought by the government in April will not be used in the NHS because of safety concerns.

The government says the masks, which use ear-loop fastenings rather than head loops, may not fit tightly enough.

They were bought for healthcare workers from supplier Ayanda Capital as part of a £252m contract.

Ayanda says the masks meet the specifications the government had set out. The government says its safety standards process is "robust".

It also emerged that the person who originally approached the government about the deal was a government trade adviser who also advises the board of Ayanda....


It gets much worse......this is a scandal.


BIG G
And they want to "reform" judicial review so they can't be challenged in court for stuff like this. We're in dangerous times. And incredibly they've extended their lead in the polls.
 
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The Financial Times has had some of the best coverage of the Covid-19 pandemic from a numerical and statistical point of view.✅

It was the first publication to identify that "excess deaths" over a previous 5 year average was the gold standard measuring device rather than any government reported figures.

Most of it is now behind a paywall but here are some extracts from this weekends free to view publication.✅
 
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Looks like auld Putin's got it licked..

 
Trini Lopez, singer and actor in the 60' and 70's has succumbed to the virus
Kiddywinkies may have seen him in The Dirty Dozen or even heard him sing his cover of the Pete Seger classic.


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Spanish update......increase in covid cases, 2,935 contagious and 26 deaths in the last 24 hours.
 
China has granted the first invention patent to a domestic COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by CanSino Biologics.

Why is there no coverage in the UK MSM?


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China has granted the first invention patent to a domestic COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by CanSino Biologics.

Why is there no coverage in the UK MSM?


BIG G

Too busy slagging off the Russian vaccine.
 
Too busy slagging off the Russian vaccine.

More like both UK and US Governments have spent multi millions already on deals for millions of doses of as yet, non existing vaccine .

UK.......


US....


Puts both in a difficult siuation if the Chinese vaccine is manufactured first.

Hong Kong Fluey vaccine indeed. Mr Trump.

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Less people have died in US so far this year than this time last year.
Influenza is currently killing more people in UK than Covid 19.

Welcome to the biggest hoax in humanity.

Anyone see the Wuhan water party?
Looked awesome.

And not a mask in site!
 
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Less people have died in US so far this year than this time last year.
Influenza is currently killing more people in UK than Covid 19.

Welcome to the biggest hoax in humanity.

Anyone see the Wuhan water party?
Looked awesome.

And not a mask in site!
Don't know about a hoax but who knows how China got away with a hundred and odd deaths excluding Hubei!
 
Less people have died in US so far this year than this time last year.
Influenza is currently killing more people in UK than Covid 19.

Welcome to the biggest hoax in humanity.

Anyone see the Wuhan water party?
Looked awesome.

And not a mask in site!

I don't follow USA stats but do make a big effort to follow Scottish??????? and English stats??????? and the gold standard of statistics is the excess deaths for 2020 over a 5 year moving average.

The Financial Times have done extensive work in this area and have concluded that there were 65,000 excess deaths in the summer of 2020 in the UK as a whole.?

The Scottish ??????? extract is shown below.

These people must have died from something and as its mathematically impossible to get such a freak result then the inevitabley sad conclusion is they died from Covid 19 so this is conclusive proof to most reasonable rational people that this is anything but a hoax.❌

The Wuhan pool party did look awesome✅ and when you live in a completely clean and covid free environment having just tested 8,000,000 people on a 3 week period then that's what you can do.

Living in an authotitive dictatorship does have some advantages especially when it comes to marshalling public he alth resources. ✅

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Less people have died in US so far this year than this time last year.

150,000 more than average - "excess deaths" as per Times above.
 
Less people have died in US so far this year than this time last year.
Influenza is currently killing more people in UK than Covid 19.

Welcome to the biggest hoax in humanity.

Anyone see the Wuhan water party?
Looked awesome.

And not a mask in site!

We have had allsorts on the Bounce over the years from Tap dancers, a Romantic little person and now a QAnon person. Seen it all now.


*What is QAnon?
QAnon is a far right-wing, loosely organized network and community of believers who embrace a wide range of unsubstantiated theories. These views center around the tenet that a cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles, mainly consisting of what they see as elitist Democrats, politicians, journalists, entertainment moguls and other institutional figures, have long controlled much of the “deep state” government, which they say seeks to undermine President Trump, mostly with aid of media and entertainment outlets.

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Less people have died in US so far this year than this time last year.
Influenza is currently killing more people in UK than Covid 19.

Welcome to the biggest hoax in humanity.

Anyone see the Wuhan water party?
Looked awesome.

And not a mask in site!
I take it you'll not be taking any vaccine for the hoax?
 
I take it you'll not be taking any vaccine for the hoax?
I’m hearing it’s in the form of a suppository, for all the good it’s gonni dae yi wid be as well sticking it up yer erse.
 
I’m hearing it’s in the form of a suppository, for all the good it’s gonni dae yi wid be as well sticking it up yer erse.

Bummer.
 

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