Club Captain Next Season?

Pistol1981....

Just A Radge
Fair point Hammi. It might be that he feels that he would be stepping on Hanlon's toes. Give him a try for a while and see how he goes would be my option.
In all respect , if Hanlon doesn't cant be professional and doesn't like the manager's decision then he shouldn't be in the team.. At the end of the say , the team comes first and not the feelings of a disgruntled player.....
 

Braehead Cabbage

Baldy radge
I've always thought Paul Hanlon is an underrated player. I've never bought into this 'Shanlon' stuff that many have said.

However, I don't think he's the player he once was. I don't think he's finished and I'm not saying he's not got anything to offer. However, I don't think he's good enough now to be an automatic starter, for where we want to be and where we should be.

I have never been convinced by him as captain and I've often wondered if this responsibility has hindered his game? There's two instances this season where I admit he's really pissed me off. One off the field and the other on it.

Off the field it was the live interview with our captain from the team hotel the night before the semi-final v the Gunts. Asked what advice he'd give any young player for the game he said to "...treat it like any other game...". My argument would be that that lot don't treat like this as "any other game" hence why they've got something over us at times....

On the field I think his performance as St Johnstone took their missed penalty told us a lot. The St Johnstone player who struck the rebound from the initial Macey save was behind Hanlon when the penalty kick was taken. The St Johnstone player had more anticipation and determination for a possible follow up than Paul Hanlon. Pretty poor for a captain and centre back. Where's his desire??!!

The obvious guy to go and buy as a ready made replacement as captain is Jason Kerr. Sadly I just can't see us affording him unless they're prepared to accept cash + players.
Where exactly "should Hibs be"?
 

Hammi

Top radge
Admin
In all respect , if Hanlon doesn't cant be professional and doesn't like the manager's decision then he shouldn't be in the team.. At the end of the say , the team comes first and not the feelings of a disgruntled player.....

That isn't what he said i don't think.
Fair point Hammi. It might be that he feels that he would be stepping on Hanlon's toes. Give him a try for a while and see how he goes would be my option.

I dont think that should matter, someone ahead of him on the park taking control of that area should free him up to focus on his own area of the park.
Mark Milligan took over imo, made himself a leader in our midfield, didn't upset or put anyone off at the time.

My worry with giving someone the armband for a while is that you could change your captain 2 or 3 times in a year.
Your leader should be your leader, if you're not automatically the leader, you shouldn't be given the armband from someone as established.

We could play with no captain as long as we had leaders
The armband is more for the referees benefit than the team imo.
 

numptyploom

Just A Radge
A manager can't make anybody a club captain purely by choice.A captain becomes obvious in training and games by pushing and cajoling team mates and earning their respect or being feared by them! Also got to be decent player himself to get that!
 

AG1337

Well-Known Radge
If he is staying, give the armband to Martin Boyle.

Why?

He seems popular with the squad, he has shown loyalty to the club, he is arguably or most effective player and it might settle him down, ( nae mare diving, nae transfer either).

The captain role is important but let’s not forget the 10 other players on the park need to take responsibility for their own actions and performance.

I was lucky to play against Neil Orr a few times at the end of his playing days, I cant recall him screaming once at his team but he ran the show and you could tell all his team mates listened to him. The Roy Keane school of management doesn’t work all the time or indeed, is required.
 

tayside hibee

Well-Known Radge
We don’t have an obvious captain, who is pretty much a stick on to start every week. That is a concern, has been for a couple of years.
But on a side note , regarding PH , I have always felt we have played him out of his natural position , his whole career. He is quite a skilful , athletic player . He has a range of passing, but has always fell short on the aggression a CH needs.
A left sided midfielder for me has always been his true calling.
We need to sign a captain, but nobody in our price range springs to mind , that my limited knowledge tells me.
Is Steven Fletcher still up for a season?
 

Bobby_Combe

Just A Radge
The very fact that there's so much discussion and disagreement here on the subject tells me we have a real problem.

It seems to me that the team has lacked leadership on the field throughout this season. David Gray hasn't been playing regularly, and Paul Hanlon hasn't been playing consistently well. Even if he were, he wouldn't be my choice, frankly.

I don't know who I'd choose; is there anyone who's been consistently sure of playing throughout the season?

FWIW, I'd have appointed Rocky as captain and played him every game he was fit. I do not like this practice of playing one goalkeeper in the League and another in the Cups. Play the best keeper every game. Rocky did make a difference to the defence. IMO he should have played in both the LC semi and the Cup Final.
 
FWIW, I'd have appointed Rocky as captain and played him every game he was fit. I do not like this practice of playing one goalkeeper in the League and another in the Cups. Play the best keeper every game. Rocky did make a difference to the defence. IMO he should have played in both the LC semi and the Cup Final.
I agree with this regarding Captaincy and think that making Matt Macey captain would be a good move.

BIG G
 

sockyboy

Just A Radge
Probably an odd and I guess not too popular a choice right now but if he's still here next season I'd give Porteous a bash at being Captain.
It might actually be the making of him, having responsibility, having to grow up and grow into a leader.
 

Hammi

Top radge
Admin
Probably an odd and I guess not too popular a choice right now but if he's still here next season I'd give Porteous a bash at being Captain.
It might actually be the making of him, having responsibility, having to grow up and grow into a leader.

I'd be selling him
 

Bobby_Combe

Just A Radge
Rocky did play in the LC semi.
Ok, sorry. My memory's playing tricks right now. It's either cabin fever or Alzheimer's. But the principle remains - unnecessary changes.

If Matt Macey is first choice next season and playing well, IMO he should be playing in all our major games. That includes any semis or finals we might get to. I don't know how or where the practice of having two keepers, one for the League and one for Cups, started, but I don't think it makes sense. Going back to when we had Andy Goram, Jim Leighton or John Burridge on our books, what possible sense would there be in dropping them to play the reserve apart from injury or giving the second-choice games to keep him sharp?

I would still maintain that Rocky was far and away the best choice for team captain last season, given that Darren MacGregor wasn't playing.
 

HaarlemShuffler

Coffee Shop Radge
Ok, sorry. My memory's playing tricks right now. It's either cabin fever or Alzheimer's. But the principle remains - unnecessary changes.

If Matt Macey is first choice next season and playing well, IMO he should be playing in all our major games. That includes any semis or finals we might get to. I don't know how or where the practice of having two keepers, one for the League and one for Cups, started, but I don't think it makes sense. Going back to when we had Andy Goram, Jim Leighton or John Burridge on our books, what possible sense would there be in dropping them to play the reserve apart from injury or giving the second-choice games to keep him sharp?

I would still maintain that Rocky was far and away the best choice for team captain last season, given that Darren MacGregor wasn't playing.
On Rocky: Schmeichel - whatever generation - I would have as a captain. I just don't think Rocky's vocal or dominant enough - and that's just at corners not being captain the whole game.

Like wooden legs - 'pinions eh :)
 

Smurf

Auld Enuff Tae Know Better This Radge
Thread starter
I’d do same
has value now don’t think he will in future.

Ryan Porteous has improved massively this season. His defensive attributes, his passing and yes his concentration. He still has the odd wee mistake in him but so has any player. He's hugely underrated by many in our support when a year or so ago he was possibly overrated. I love his desire and as he showed with The Huns his "no fucks given" mentality. Sadly I do think that this wasn't so apparent towards the end of the season and I hope it isn't being coached out of his game.
 
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