Club Captain Next Season?

Smurf

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I've always thought Paul Hanlon is an underrated player. I've never bought into this 'Shanlon' stuff that many have said.

However, I don't think he's the player he once was. I don't think he's finished and I'm not saying he's not got anything to offer. However, I don't think he's good enough now to be an automatic starter, for where we want to be and where we should be.

I have never been convinced by him as captain and I've often wondered if this responsibility has hindered his game? There's two instances this season where I admit he's really pissed me off. One off the field and the other on it.

Off the field it was the live interview with our captain from the team hotel the night before the semi-final v the Gunts. Asked what advice he'd give any young player for the game he said to "...treat it like any other game...". My argument would be that that lot don't treat like this as "any other game" hence why they've got something over us at times....

On the field I think his performance as St Johnstone took their missed penalty told us a lot. The St Johnstone player who struck the rebound from the initial Macey save was behind Hanlon when the penalty kick was taken. The St Johnstone player had more anticipation and determination for a possible follow up than Paul Hanlon. Pretty poor for a captain and centre back. Where's his desire??!!

The obvious guy to go and buy as a ready made replacement as captain is Jason Kerr. Sadly I just can't see us affording him unless they're prepared to accept cash + players.
 
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Hammi

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Did Kerr not pledge himself to St Johnstone or something?

I'm sure he said he wanted to play in Europe with them.
I think that was based around winning the cup and getting it til Christmas though, seem to think that's how I read it before.

But with a final against Hibs, the team you support and the team with the strong links to making a move just around the corner.

You have to come out and say that.
 

Pistol1981....

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I've always thought Paul Hanlon is an underrated player. I've never bought into this 'Shanlon' stuff that many have said.

However, I don't think he's the player he once was. I don't think he's finished and I'm not saying he's not got anything to offer. However, I don't think he's good enough now to be an automatic starter, for where we want to be and where we should be.

I have never been convinced by him as captain and I've often wondered if this responsibility has hindered his game? There's two instances this season where I admit he's really pissed me off. One off the field and the other on it.

Off the field it was the live interview with our captain from the team hotel the night before the semi-final v the Gunts. Asked what advice he'd give any young player for the game he said to "...treat it like any other game...". My argument would be that that lot don't treat like this as "any other game" hence why they've got something over us at times....

On the field I think his performance as St Johnstone took their missed penalty told us a lot. The St Johnstone player who struck the rebound from the initial Macey save was behind Hanlon when the penalty kick was taken. The St Johnstone player had more anticipation and determination for a possible follow up than Paul Hanlon. Pretty poor for a captain and centre back. Where's his desire??!!

The obvious guy to go and buy as a ready made replacement as captain is Jason Kerr. Sadly I just can't see us affording him unless they're prepared to accept cash + playe
He should've been binned with the rest of the dross that got us relegated under Butcher being perfectly honest..

In his time at hibs , many players, managers have came and went however he has contributed to some of the most eye bleeding football a lot of us have ever witnessed...
The record during his time at Hibs is filled the majority of the time by failure. Look at his cup final records, Malmo , relegation , failure to make the play off final in two of those championship seasons and numerous bottle jobs on his watch.......

Hanlon is a weak captian , his press conference pre derby semi final highlighted this.. he has no leadership skills , clearly fails to inspire others and is a massive part of how poor we have been over the years...
 

Smurf

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Did Kerr not pledge himself to St Johnstone or something?

All week the media did their usual linking lot's of players leaving us.... I think last week Boyle, Nesbit, Doig, Hallberg & Porteous were all in the media being linked with moves. And in some instances these players gave comment. Not one said "I am going nowhere".

The St Johnstone captain said what no Hibs player said. Maybe he wasn't being totally honest but it was the week of the Scottish Cup final. He was focussed.

Huge. Difference.

And didn't it tell.
 

1875

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All week the media did their usual linking lot's of players leaving us.... I think last week Boyle, Nesbit, Doig, Hallberg & Porteous were all in the media being linked with moves. And in some instances these players gave comment. Not one said "I am going nowhere".

The St Johnstone captain said what no Hibs player said. Maybe he wasn't being totally honest but it was the week of the Scottish Cup final. He was focussed.

Huge. Difference.

And didn't it tell.

That is a couple of giant steps there.
 

1875

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Boyle came out said he is happy where he is. Kerr was focussed, Hibs players were not, aye right. Links to rumours in the press meant Saints players won the cup because they spoke up. Get over it mate, we lost.
 

Smurf

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Boyle came out said he is happy where he is. Kerr was focussed, Hibs players were not, aye right. Links to rumours in the press meant Saints players won the cup because they spoke up. Get over it mate, we lost

I know what I'd prefer a Hibs player to say in the media approaching a cup final. And let's not forget Boyle has previous on telly before the Gunts semi-final....

“I’d just have to see what the opportunity was. I have never been in that position before but I’m sure if it was brought to my attention then it’s something I would weigh up with family and the club then take it from there."
Martin Boyle

“I’ve got another year left on my contract but I’m definitely open to talks. My future is with St Johnstone and I really want to play European football with the club."
Jason Kerr
 

1875

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I know what I'd prefer a Hibs player to say in the media approaching a cup final. And let's not forget Boyle has previous on telly before the Gunts semi-final....

“I’d just have to see what the opportunity was. I have never been in that position before but I’m sure if it was brought to my attention then it’s something I would weigh up with family and the club then take it from there."
Martin Boyle

“I’ve got another year left on my contract but I’m definitely open to talks. My future is with St Johnstone and I really want to play European football with the club."
Jason Kerr

So one is about a semi final from last year, one about this seasons final. As I said, get over it, we got beat.
 

Dub

Hibernian, Hibernian Ra Ra Radge
I've always thought Paul Hanlon is an underrated player. I've never bought into this 'Shanlon' stuff that many have said.

However, I don't think he's the player he once was. I don't think he's finished and I'm not saying he's not got anything to offer. However, I don't think he's good enough now to be an automatic starter, for where we want to be and where we should be.

I have never been convinced by him as captain and I've often wondered if this responsibility has hindered his game? There's two instances this season where I admit he's really pissed me off. One off the field and the other on it.

Off the field it was the live interview with our captain from the team hotel the night before the semi-final v the Gunts. Asked what advice he'd give any young player for the game he said to "...treat it like any other game...". My argument would be that that lot don't treat like this as "any other game" hence why they've got something over us at times....

On the field I think his performance as St Johnstone took their missed penalty told us a lot. The St Johnstone player who struck the rebound from the initial Macey save was behind Hanlon when the penalty kick was taken. The St Johnstone player had more anticipation and determination for a possible follow up than Paul Hanlon. Pretty poor for a captain and centre back. Where's his desire??!!

The obvious guy to go and buy as a ready made replacement as captain is Jason Kerr. Sadly I just can't see us affording him unless they're prepared to accept cash + players.
I'd make Gogic captain. He at least gets wired in and I'm sure if he shouted at you, you'd listen.
 

Hammi

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I'd make Gogic captain. He at least gets wired in and I'm sure if he shouted at you, you'd listen.

If he was a true captain though we'd already be seeing that naturally.

I think if we're replacing Paul as vice captain, because Gray is still our captain, or Gray himself as his playing time is gone, then we should do so from outwith the club.

Bring in someone with the intentions of making them a leader in the team.
 

Dub

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If he was a true captain though we'd already be seeing that naturally.

I think if we're replacing Paul as vice captain, because Gray is still our captain, or Gray himself as his playing time is gone, then we should do so from outwith the club.

Bring in someone with the intentions of making them a leader in the team.
Fair point Hammi. It might be that he feels that he would be stepping on Hanlon's toes. Give him a try for a while and see how he goes would be my option.
 

Smurf

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Fair point Hammi. It might be that he feels that he would be stepping on Hanlon's toes. Give him a try for a while and see how he goes would be my option.

I don't think Gogic is a guaranteed starter and that's the issue @Dub
 
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