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Anyone following the Sturgeon v Salmond shenanigans

Do you think Sturgeon should resign

  • No, she's nothing to resign for

    Votes: 9 45.0%
  • No, she's really popular even if she had done something we can overlook it

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, although her breaches of the ministerial code were trivial rules are rules

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • Yes, the manoeuvres of the first minister and her allies have brought shame on the parliament

    Votes: 9 45.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Greenmachine

Aulder Than The Internet This Radge
The only way this could be a resignation matter is if it is found that she has broken the ministerial code. Don't think she has though. Unless Salmond can come up with some new significant evidence at his appearance tomorrow this will just fizzle out. The public aren't interested in politicians falling out with each other.
 

Jack

Aulder Than The Internet This Radge
I was interested to begin with but its all got a bit meh!

I never liked Salmond though, he always seemed as slimy as an mucus covered snake.

NS is a shrewd politician and also a lawyer. I'd be really surprised if she left herself open to such a serious charge.

If NS, who I do like quite a lot, is found guilty of breaking the code what then?

There's at least a couple of ministers down south have been guilty of breaking the code and apparently its nothing to be concerned about.

What about the elections and independence? I don't really think even if she stayed on after a guilty verdict it would make that much difference. Scotland is gripped in a political binary star system spinning around the constitution. Its like a minor smut of dirt verses the slag heap down south.
 

bigmanandy

Legendary Radge
It’s all party infighting, Salmond has a big ego and let's not forget he is a sleaze ball, you can’t present evidence that’s just hearsay and under Scots Law you can't just slander peoples names with zero evidence, SNP still getting my vote in May. Boris has broken the code multiple times and no demands down there for resignations. The Unionist press bay for blood on the orders of there Tory masters, it’s clear to see, Union Unit in full swing.
 
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1875

Admin
My priority is independence, we can deal with the cults afterwards, when let's be honest, they may be irrelevant in a newly independent Scotland where I think a good Scottish Socialist/ Labour Party would clean up.

I find Salmond a smart but smarmy bastard, Sturgeon a good 'cooncil' leader but too slow to push for what the independence movement want, she seems to enjoy her current role too much, I have never liked Macaskill, if that is the SNP left, we are fucked, and Cherry I cannae take too much as others love her.

The infighting sometimes smacks of third party involvement but that makes you sound like a loony, possibly deliberately so?
 

bigmanandy

Legendary Radge
My priority is independence, we can deal with the cults afterwards, when let's be honest, they may be irrelevant in a newly independent Scotland where I think a good Scottish Socialist/ Labour Party would clean up.

I find Salmond a smart but smarmy bastard, Sturgeon a good 'cooncil' leader but too slow to push for what the independence movement want, she seems to enjoy her current role too much, I have never liked Macaskill, if that is the SNP left, we are fucked, and Cherry I cannae take too much as others love her.

The infighting sometimes smacks of third party involvement but that makes you sound like a loony, possibly deliberately so?
I find it quite funny the amount of small new independent Indy parties popping up with certain Salmond allies involved, some of them pretty loony. Watching James Mathews sky journalist frothing at the mouth not hiding his hatred of people who care about Scotland just makes me want to vote for the SNP more.
 

Hectorhib

Just A Radge
Scottish independence might seem like none of my business, but it matters to me in that if Scotland leaves the Union, Unionists in the North of Ireland, who have always viewed Scotland as their anchor point to the Union, will be cut adrift from their spiritual home. Scottish independence will hasten the inevitable reunification of Ireland.
I had great respect for Salmond during the IndyRef: he was more than a match for anything that was put up against him. Now it seems that when the country is ready to embrace destiny, he's prepared to jeopardise that, like a jilted lover carrying out an acid attack on the ex.
If he had any iota of dignity and integrity, he'd drift off quietly into the background, but his inflated sense of importance won't let him. Having said that, I don't think he'll succeed in what he's trying.
Without having to start a thread on the topic, it might be a convenient place to mention Boris' latest bullshit to mollify demoralised unionists in the North of Ireland: a tunnel connecting Larne and Stranraer. Whilst it might seem like a great idea( there's already two holes at either side!), did ye ever hear such a pile o pish!
 

Purple & Green

Radge McRadge
Admin
Thread starter
My priority is independence, we can deal with the cults afterwards, when let's be honest, they may be irrelevant in a newly independent Scotland where I think a good Scottish Socialist/ Labour Party would clean up.

I find Salmond a smart but smarmy bastard, Sturgeon a good 'cooncil' leader but too slow to push for what the independence movement want, she seems to enjoy her current role too much, I have never liked Macaskill, if that is the SNP left, we are fucked, and Cherry I cannae take too much as others love her.

The infighting sometimes smacks of third party involvement but that makes you sound like a loony, possibly deliberately so?

I've been an snp member now for approaching 20 years, due in part to a fellow admin on this site. In the beginning I think the snps aims and mine were intertwined. Now, not so much. The purge of Salmond and the Trans rights shite is a complete turn off. I've never liked Salmond, I've never liked Sturgeon and you've used a word that I use all the time about Sturgeon, and Salmond before her - it's a cult.

I was looking at Scottish Parliament election data and the snp are no further forward support wise than they were in 2011. Despite Brexit. Despite Boris. Despite Covid. Independence support has increased though - clearly - which hints at big problems for the snp going forward. Sturgeon is strategically useless compared to Salmond IMHO.

As for third party involvement, there is a lot of chatter about it, it does seem so implausible but it also seems mental that nobody can see the damage that is being done by the ongoing committee fiasco.

Took a wee interest in it a few weeks back but in recent weeks on twitter it’s just become tedious reading the same guff from the same folk day after day.
Totally zoned out now and reckon most outside the wee bubble are the same.
You might have seen my tweets, but I think you are right - I've one politics twitter group where the Salmond affair is the central topic daily and the absolute disgust at the actions of Sturgeon trying to shut down the investigations and I've another WhatsApp group which is full of people who just don't care about it. "Who cares if she broke the code, she's so popular, and it was a long time ago anyway"

That's the paradox, but the longer term damage I suspect will be similar to the parliament building fiasco (which had nothing to do with the snp) but gives Scots a negative impression of Scottish politicians ability to run the affairs of Scotland?
 

le Deej

New radge
Anyone following it, and have any opinions?
Had Salmond been convicted of rape he'd be in the gaol. The reason he's not is because he had a defence witness say that the rape couldn't have happened because the woman making the allegation wasn't at the event and location she claimed. The jury believed Salmond's defence.

The current investigation and trial by media isn't about Salmond, but about Scot government procedure.
Weirdly, the yoon media and the Scot government are trying their best to still make it about Salmond being a sex pest. It's character assassination.
I don't even care why. It's politicians and journos all being *&*^ to each other and that's why they're all so happy. That's the game.
 
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