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Can we challenge near the top this season?

They lack in quality and could guarantee him the minutes where we couldn't.
We've been playing for something and wouldn't take the risk with him.

He didn't want 20 minutes here and there, they offered him more game time.
It's really that simple.

Going by your comments, Allan wanted more game time?
 
Going by your comments, Allan wanted more game time?

Exactly that.

He wasn't ready to play to his best, at the top end of this league helping us challenge for Europe and the cups.
So he asked to go elsewhere and get his game back.
 
Nice try, you missed out - we need better quality in variety of positions, we also need leaders on the pitch and defenders that challenge balls into the box. I wouldn’t be confident starting a new season with that squad and that time we did.

So the management team have made good signings and gone on to confound your expectations with the level of success but you're still pissed off with them? That still doesn't make much sense tbh.

I'm not saying all's completely rosy but we're in with a chance of our best season in about half a century. That in itself is grounds for optimism (if not quite celebration, yet) and makes the players and management worthy of at least a modicum of praise, surely.

With your constantly shifting aspirations for Hibs I don't see how you could ever be happy - if we'd won the league by 12 points I feel like you'd be annoyed it wasn't twenty. And given the summit of our ambitions is realistically third and the cup, and we might actually do that, I'm mystified as to what you think a successful campaign would actually look like.
 
So the management team have made good signings and gone on to confound your expectations with the level of success but you're still pissed off with them? That still doesn't make much sense tbh.

I'm not saying all's completely rosy but we're in with a chance of our best season in about half a century. That in itself is grounds for optimism (if not quite celebration, yet) and makes the players and management worthy of at least a modicum of praise, surely.

With your constantly shifting aspirations for Hibs I don't see how you could ever be happy - if we'd won the league by 12 points I feel like you'd be annoyed it wasn't twenty. And given the summit of our ambitions is realistically third and the cup, and we might actually do that, I'm mystified as to what you think a successful campaign would actually look like.

Your last post couldn’t be further from the truth. If our home games were as good as our away games just think where we would be. In these games loads on here registered their disgust and concerns.
 
Your last post couldn’t be further from the truth. If our home games were as good as our away games just think where we would be. In these games loads on here registered their disgust and concerns.

There's nothing wrong with his post.
But your second sentence, I've said myself and I do agree. We could be in a great position if we had done as good at home,

But in the bigger picture, us being in 3rd, with a cup final potentially on the horizon, thats pretty good considering we've been so poor at home. We've put the pieces in place to go on and improve and do better things. It takes more than a season to build a team, Stubbs' team wasn't the finished article in his first season. We were better to watch, but we weren't great by any means.

Picking certain poor performances as an overall judgement on the season, instead of the results of the actual season is a bit backwards.
You're obsessing over the negatives, when there's plenty to be positive about. The rest of us still see where we've went wrong and who or what doesn't work, but they don't outweigh the good.
 
Your last post couldn’t be further from the truth. If our home games were as good as our away games just think where we would be. In these games loads on here registered their disgust and concerns.

You've just illustrated @HenryLB point beautifully.
 
There's nothing wrong with his post.
But your second sentence, I've said myself and I do agree. We could be in a great position if we had done as good at home,

But in the bigger picture, us being in 3rd, with a cup final potentially on the horizon, thats pretty good considering we've been so poor at home. We've put the pieces in place to go on and improve and do better things. It takes more than a season to build a team, Stubbs' team wasn't the finished article in his first season. We were better to watch, but we weren't great by any means.

Picking certain poor performances as an overall judgement on the season, instead of the results of the actual season is a bit backwards.
You're obsessing over the negatives, when there's plenty to be positive about. The rest of us still see where we've went wrong and who or what doesn't work, but they don't outweigh the good.

This part of the post i was referring to - With your constantly shifting aspirations for Hibs I don't see how you could ever be happy - if we'd won the league by 12 points I feel like you'd be annoyed it wasn't twenty
 
You've just illustrated @HenryLB point beautifully.

Enjoy your birthday
 
There's nothing wrong with his post.
But your second sentence, I've said myself and I do agree. We could be in a great position if we had done as good at home,

But in the bigger picture, us being in 3rd, with a cup final potentially on the horizon, thats pretty good considering we've been so poor at home. We've put the pieces in place to go on and improve and do better things. It takes more than a season to build a team, Stubbs' team wasn't the finished article in his first season. We were better to watch, but we weren't great by any means.

Picking certain poor performances as an overall judgement on the season, instead of the results of the actual season is a bit backwards.
You're obsessing over the negatives, when there's plenty to be positive about. The rest of us still see where we've went wrong and who or what doesn't work, but they don't outweigh the good.
Nice post, actually agree with that. Was a bit disappointed (ok, a lot) after last Saturday. But there is a bigger picture. Just can’t wait for Saturday to come round now and hoping we can put it right on the big stage
 
Yet teams in that division knock out SPL teams
Just as well they do.
Or we'd be still waiting for that cup win.
 
Just as well they do.
Or we'd be still waiting for that cup win.
Agreed. Three of them on the way to immortality. Amazing when you stop to think about it.
Which I think I will.
 
Can we challenge near the top of the league? The answer's yes. Next question!
 
Near the top of the league? Yes.
Top of the league? No.
Such is the financial gulf between Celtic/the rangers and the rest, it's not possible IMHO.
It would need a tremendous amount of luck for any other club to win, or indeed finish second in the SPL.
Minimal injuries and suspensions and a group of players who 'clicked'. Like Dundee Utd in 1983.
However, we should be aiming for European football every season.
Regardless of how brief an excursion that may be.
 
Near the top of the league? Yes.
Top of the league? No.
Such is the financial gulf between Celtic/the Huns and the rest, it's not possible IMHO.
It would need a tremendous amount of luck for any other club to win, or indeed finish second in the SPL.
Minimal injuries and suspensions and a group of players who 'clicked'. Like Dundee Utd in 1983.
However, we should be aiming for European football every season.
Regardless of how brief an excursion that may be.
Agreed. Most we can hope for is third. The gruesome twosome have a virtual monopoly on the League sadly. So much in fact, I really can’t see anyone out with them two winning this league unless something really radical happens, like the Man City owners thinking fuck this, let’s see what leith is like
 
So you accept that in this covid season that all teams have been shite but you expect Hibs to be immune to that?
Maybe we got the vaccine 1st 🤔🤣🤣🤣
 
If our home games were as good as our away games just think where we would be.

We’d be third.
 
We’d be third.
This is true. We've 32 points from away games, so we'd be on 64. At least we'd have secured third but not by much more.
 
This is true. We've 32 points from away games, so we'd be on 64. At least we'd have secured third but not by much more.
33 I think. But it amounts to the same thing.

Somehow I just can’t see that handful of points being enough to turn @The Family’s disgust into jubilant cheerleading but maybe I’m wrong.
 
33 I think. But it amounts to the same thing.

Somehow I just can’t see that handful of points being enough to turn @The Family’s disgust into jubilant cheerleading but maybe I’m wrong.
He’s just a bit careful. Doesn’t want to be too confident.
He used to be a ‘glass half full’ guy, but some bastard knocked his glass over his trousers.
Mind you, he claimed it was a full pint then.
 
We’d be third.

We would be second
 
We would be second
If we got the same average points per game in home games as we have in away games we'd have 66 points (33 away points / 18 away games x 36 total games). Celtic are on 73.
 
We would be second

We'd be six points behind Celtic and thirty behind Rangers.
 
We'd be six points behind Celtic and thirty behind Huns.

Would all depend on whether some of those extra points picked up were against either of those 2.

Hes right though, we'd be closer to celtic, and potentially challenging for second.
 
Would all depend on whether some of those extra points picked up were against either of those 2.

Hes right though, we'd be closer to celtic, and potentially challenging for second.

I suppose you could argue that technically since we drew one match with Celtic away then for our home record to be completely analogous we'd only be a couple of points behind them. But he's not correct, we'd still be third. And in a year when we've been fortunate to face an historically bad Celtic team, which in itself is a slice of luck.

The whole premise of this argument is a bit silly though. The season has been a success even on the terms that The Family himself (or herself) set out at the start, s/he's just moving the goalposts now.
 
Sitting 3rd at this point in the season, with A SCF against St J's to look forward to.........
:ok:

Even some of the bams on Facebook would have to concede this is laudable.

(But of course they'd counter with "we could end up 4th and fail in the final" trolling.)
 
Sitting 3rd at this point in the season, with A SCF against St J's to look forward to.......
:ok:

Even some of the bams on Facebook would have to concede this is laudable.

(But of course they'd counter with "we could end up 4th and fail in the final" trolling.)
Yeah, plenty to be excited about in the next two weeks and looking forward into next season
 

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